Nic Petan: Can a Prospect be too “NHL-Ready”?


When Claude Giroux came out of the Quebec Major Junior League in 2008, it was clear to all that he was a high-end talent. Not only was he coming off three straight 100-point seasons, and a strong showing with Canada’s gold medal winning World Junior Championship squad, but he utterly dominated the QMJHL playoffs, leading the league in scoring with 51 points in just 19 games. Based on that resume, it would have been incredibly easy for the Flyers to put the 20-year-oldin the NHL in the fall of 2008, and yet, they resisted the urge – partly because Giroux was just 5’11, and around 170 lbs. Instead, they sent him to the AHL’s Philadelphia Phantoms, where Giroux spent just 33 games scoring 34 points.

Claude Giroux has since become one of the top forwards in the NHL, and he is one of the league’s leading scorers year after year. In fact, did you know that he’s the NHL’s top scorer since the fall of 2010? While it’s impossible to say what kind of player he would have become had he skipped the AHL, it’s certainly fair to say that spending half a season in the minors didn’t hurt his development.

Following a striking change in organizational philosophy, today’s Toronto Maple Leafs are doing things in a very similar waySpeaking about the organization’s “timeline” for player development, Assistant GM Kyle Dubas said the following:

“…we want the players to master the AHL level and the minor-league level and not bring them up after one good weekend,” he said. “They have to show us they can do all of the things. …Once our guys show they can master [the AHL] consistently, then we’ll have that conversation. That’s up to the players. Never been a hard and fast rule that no one is coming up this year.”

The key phrase there is “master the AHL”; while you could debate what “master” means, I interpret that to mean that a young player should stay in the minors until they prove that they’re too good for that level.

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In an incredibly curious move from this off-season, the Winnipeg Jets opted not to re-sign veteran Lee Stempniak, despite the fact that Stempniak was keenly interested in staying. While it’s doubtful  that anyone considered Stempniak to be part of the Jets’ core moving forward, he was a consistent 15-goal scorer with modest contract demands. In a worst-case scenario, he was good, affordable depth for the organization – a player who could play up and down the lineup, from (at least) the 2nd line, to the 4th line. And while passive observers have the benefit of hindsight, it’s worth noting that he has fit in incredibly well in New Jersey, scoring 12 points in 16 games, while making just $850,000 on a one-year contract. (That would put him third in scoring on the Jets, while putting him 12th in salary among forwards). Most importantly, the decision to let Stempniak go allowed Nic Petan – a 20-year-old rookie who is at most 5’9, 170 lbs. – to make the NHL without playing a single game with the Moose.

Let’s look at the possible reasons why the Jets held a spot open for a youngster, rather than re-signing Stempniak, or a similar player:

(1) Petan might be better

While you can’t analyze players in a vacuum, with 12 points in 16 games this season, and 10 points in 18 games last season with the Jets in a third line role, it’s hard to argue that Petan has has made the Jets better than Stempniak would have, given that he has just 2 points through 14 games. Plus, if he was a key part of the team, he wouldn’t have been scratched 4 times this year.

(2) Petan would be cheaper

Petan will likely will be a bit cheaper than Stempniak this season, but not significantly. While Petan does have a lower base salary than Stempniak, if he were to hit all his bonuses (the clauses of which are unknown), his cap number will actually be slightly higher than Stempniak’s $850,000. Regardless, if Petan ends up making ~$100,000 less, that’s just .14% of the NHL’s $71.4M salary cap.

(3) The Jets already have plenty of organizational depth

Given the Moose’s struggles so far, this is a pretty easy one to address. The Moose currently sit second-last in the AHL, and they don’t have a single forward on the roster who is in the top-100 in league scoring. While that doesn’t mean that there aren’t some good players down there, it’s pretty clear that there’s no one currently banging down the door to get to the NHL.

(4) Petan will develop faster in the NHL than in the AHL

While there’s no iron-clad argument against this, a whole lot of anecdotal evidence would suggest that this isn’t the case. The “plug-and-play” approach – taking undeniably skilled, but very young players, and placing them directly in the NHL – failed miserably for years in places like Long Island in the late 90’s, Florida in the early 2000’s, Columbus in the mid-2000’s, and most recently, Edmonton.  Meanwhile, the “draft and develop” model followed by teams like Tampa Bay, Nashville, and most famously, Detroit, has worked pretty nicely for several years now. Some of that is detailed here, and here. 

If Petan were in the AHL, he’d be playing around 20 minutes per night, quarterbacking the powerplay, likely generating tons of scoring chances, and helping make his young teammates better. And if the Jets ran into injury troubles, or if he simply lit up the league – or “mastered the AHL” – they could call him up at any time. Instead, Petan is averaging 9:22 of ice-time per game, and playing primarily with Andrew Copp and Chris Thorburn – two gritty, hard-working players who don’t have a future as top-6 forwards. Not only is he not being put in a position to succeed – he’d be better complemented by a finisher with some size, like Drew Stafford – outside of the 1:23 per game he averages on the powerplay, he’s not really being given a chance at all.

Scale of the Problem

Taking a step back, is this situation the end of the world? Absolutely not. Nic Petan is a very skilled, intelligent player, and while his development might be better served in the AHL, he can still become a very productive player by following his current path, and a potential replacement for the style and offence of Mathieu Perreault (should he wish to depart when his contract expires at the end of 2017). But the logic behind this series of decisions is a concern, and for Jets fans, it’s something to keep an eye on.

The Future is Bright – Top-20 Jets Prospects

Danish sensation, Nik Ehlers

Nik Ehlers – The Jets’ 1st round pick in 2014


Craig Button – one of the more of the more reputable evaluators of young hockey talent – has said on numerous occasions that the Jets’ prospect pool is the best in the NHL. And bBetween the high-end skill, future #1 goaltenders, and depth at various position, I’m inclined to agree with him. So who are the most promising among them? And where might they fit in down the road? Here’s an update on the Jets crop of young talent.

High-end Talent

Ehlers, Morrissey, Petan

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The Winnipeg Jets and the NHL Draft

A Good Draft Pick

A Good Draft Pick

Check out another recent draft post here

The Winnipeg Jets are killing the draft. Killing it.

Everyone knows about Trouba, Scheifele, and Morrissey – all of whom look like great picks so far – but the Jets aren’t get enough credit for the picks they’re making outside of the first round. Whether it’s Adam Lowry – a potential power forward who’s easily the most hyped non-first rounder in the system – Scott Kosmachuk – a big-time scorer in the OHL – Nic Petan – one of the most skilled players in the entire 2013 draft (at pick #43!), or Andrew Copp – a 4th round pick they plucked from Michigan State who has the makings of a reliable NHLer – the young talent they’re assembling is impressive. I haven’t even mentioned Connor Hellebuyck, who was named NCAA goaltender of the year after posting absurd numbers that wouldn’t even make sense to you if I posted them. (Hockey db it, seriously, it’s stupid how good he was). Continue reading

It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like Jets-mas


#16 on the ice, #1 in your heart - Andrew Ladd

Jets captain Andrew Ladd – #16 on the ice, #1 in your heart


It’s that time of year again. While some Winnipeggers mourn the loss of summer, a bird of a different colour awaits October 1st – and the following phrase – with bated breath:


(If you’re wondering what song fills the MTS Centre as the Jets pour onto the ice, it’s No Money by Kings of Leon)

With that in mind, here are some thoughts that have been stewing in my brain since the end of last season.

(1)            Where should Scheifele and Trouba start the year?

This is a critically important question. There is a right-way to develop players, and there is a wrong way. Teams like Detroit, Nashville, and New Jersey have been doing it right for years, and have consistently developed young players, without the benefit of draft lottery picks. In stark contrast, teams like Florida, Columbus, and New York (Islanders) are textbook examples of how to screw up good young talent.

Initially, I phrased this question as “Where should they play the year,” but I think the distinction is important. I have no problem with Scheifele or Trouba playing the majority of the season in Winnipeg, so long as they are worthy of doing so; but, I would love to see them start the year in St. John’s. When it comes to developing young players, I firmly believe in the following:

Keep prospects at a lower level of competition until they prove that they’re too good for that level; or, said another way – put them in a position to succeed, not in a position to fail

Maybe Mark Scheifele (age 20), and Jacob Trouba (19), are ready to play in the NHL today. They’re certainly both great prospects with promising futures. But what happens if they’re not ready yet – can Jets management resist the temptation to “give them a look”?

There is a long, sordid tale to be told of the young players whose fruit was reaped before it ripened; players whose NHL careers began before they were battle-tested in the American Hockey League. Here are just a few recent examples – none of their names will be familiar to casual hockey fans, but they were all good enough to make the NHL as teenagers: James Sheppard, Gilbert Brule, Colton Gillies, Oscar Moller, Rostislav Olesz, Nikita Filatov, Nino Niederreiter. Most of them suffered through pitiful rookie years, during which time they could have been playing at lower levels, and adding speed, strength, maturity, and most importantly, confidence. Every one of them has been traded from their original organization – a clear acknowledgement that things never worked out as planned. While those are just the most abject failures, Luke Schenn, Mikklel Boedker, Brett Connolly, and Ryan Johansen are further examples of teenagers who were pushed too soon, and are mere shadows of their draft-day billing.

On the other side of the coin, there’s a surprising list of current stars who played abbreviated seasons in the AHL before coming to the show. I don’t think the careers of Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, Claude Giroux, Jason Spezza, Thomas Vanek, James Neal, Logan Couture, or Zach Parise were harmed by playing in the AHL. And the same can be said for P.K Subban, Kris Letang, Nik Kronwall, Duncan Keith, Mike Green, Shea Weber, and Zdeno Chara. Perhaps playing in a developmental league where they got more ice time, and played under less pressure, even helped them. Who knows.

Now that’s not to say that a young player can’t jump straight from junior/college hockey and be successful, but the vast majority of players who have made that leap are top draft picks – 1st, 2nd, or 3rd overall – players like Crosby, Stamkos, Toews, Malkin, Tavares, Kane, etc. Once you get past pick-5, it’s rare for a rookie to step right into the NHL without some AHL seasoning.

(2)            Who are the best lesser-known Jets prospects?

Every Jets fan has heard about Mark Scheifele and Jacob Trouba ad nauseum, and probably knows a bit about Josh Morrissey. They’re all 1st round picks, and they get most of the attention. But there are three other players who could figure prominently into the Jets future.

Nic Petan is a pint-sized centre from Delta, B.,C drafted in the 2nd round this past year. If he was even 6’, 180 lbs, he would have been taken in the top-5 picks, but since he’s ~5’8, 160, he fell to the Jets at #43. He has great hands and quickness, but what really sets him apart is his ability to see the ice and read the play. He’s one of those rare guys who has the composure to cradle a rebound in front of the net, and instead of flailing wildly at the puck, he’ll spot a teammate back-door for a tap-in. If David Desharnais (Mtl) can play in the NHL at 5’6, I see no reason why Petan can’t play at 5’8. Granted he won’t play anytime soon, but after 2 more years in junior hockey, and a year and a half in the AHL, he could be ready to give the Jets’ powerplay a shot in the arm. Look for him to make the Canadian World Junior team this winter.

Initially, Adam Lowry was known as the son of former NHLer Dave Lowry, who played over 1000 games in the NHL, most memorably with Florida in their 1996 Stanley Cup run. But that was before his stellar 2012-2013 season, which saw him win the Four Broncos Award for WHL Player of the Year. Although he was 32 points behind fellow Jets prospect Nic Petan for the league lead in scoring, he did basically everything for the Swift Current Broncos, scoring 45 goals and 88 points, while no other teammate had more than 24 goals, or 59 points. Not only does he have some skill, but he’s also 6’5, and by all accounts, he’s been using thus far in Jets training camp. Like most 20-year-olds who stand 6’5, he’s still growing into his body, but if he can strengthen his legs and improve his skating, he could be a huge part of this team in a few years. I’ll be very curious to see how he does in St. John’s, and whether the offensive numbers he posted in junior will carry over to pro hockey.

For a guy who isn’t terribly big or fast, Scott Kosmachuk is making a lot of noise at training camp. He has good hands and a very good shot, and reminds me a bit of Michael Ryder – another guy who doesn’t really stand out, until he gets the puck in the slot, and it suddenly finds the back of the net. He scored a quick rap-around goal against Washington in the exhibition opener on the 14th, and seems to be one of those players that comes alive once the puck is on his stick. He’s scored over 30 goals in each of the last two OHL seasons, and looks to build on that production heading into his last year of junior hockey. It’s hard to say at this point whether Kosmachuk will ever make an impact in the NHL, but the Jets will be eagerly monitoring his development.

(3)            Are there any darkhorses who could make the team?

Yes – meet Eric O’Dell. Often overlooked because of average size and speed, it’s hard to ignore his skill. Though he’s not as quick, he plays a bit like current Jets centre Bryan Little – smart, with decent playmaking ability and a very good shot. He had an operation in 2010 to repair a strange birth defect – a hole in his heart, which had grown to be as big as a quarter by the time he turned 20. Although he didn’t play hockey for 6 months following surgery, the operation allowed him to increase his fitness level, since the hole was decreasing the flow of blood between the chambers of his heart, leaving him to operate around 80% capacity beforehand. Since turning pro, he’s taken his conditioning to a new level, and it really showed this past year, as he was easily the Ice Caps best player, scoring 29 goals in 59 games, in a year where no one else managed more than 15.

With Little, Jokinen, and Slater penciled in at centre, O’Dell is competing with Mark Scheifele for that last spot. And while that spot will likely go to the youngster, there’s a good chance we’ll see O’Dell join the big club if and when there’s an injury.

(4)            Who were the best off-season additions?

I think it’s pretty clear that the best player added this off-season was Devin Setoguchi. He’s a steady 20-25 goal scorer, who pencils in nicely on the second line. Enough said. But the best move, in my opinion, was signing Matt Halishchuk. And it’s all about value.

Devin Setoguchi makes $3M, has only 1 year left on his contract, and was traded for a 2nd round pick in next year’s draft. If the Jets had made a similar move last year, we wouldn’t have drafted Nic Petan, and amateur GM’s everywhere would be talking about how smart some other team was to get such a talent in the middle of the 2nd round. The problem is, if Setoguchi plays well this year, he demands a raise – probably north of $4M per season, and the Jets may not be inclined to give that much money to a second liner. If he plays poorly, then it was foolish to give up a second rounder in the first place. If he has a decent year, and likes the city, maybe we keep him at a reasonable salary, but I think it’s more likely that he walks at year-end, meaning we gave up a decent asset for essentially a rental player.

By contrast, Matt Halischuk flew under the radar this off-season after being let go by Nashville. He signed a ‘two-way’ contract with the Jets, which pays him $650,000 if he makes the team, and only $250,000 if he plays in the AHL. Though he’s not as skilled as Setoguchi, he did score 15 goals two years ago in Nashville, despite playing in a role which gave him little or no powerplay time. He may not be big or fast, but he’s a coach’s dream because he works hard and plays a very smart game. I fully expect him to make the team, and be a go-to guy on the penalty kill, though he may also provide some offence based on smart positioning and a willingness to go to the dirty areas. That’s exactly how he scored the game-winning goal for Canada at the 2008 World Junior Championships – slyly shoveling home a Shawn Matthias rebound to beat Sweden in overtime.

Michael Frolik was also an interesting addition. He was acquired from Chicago in exchange for 3rd and 5th round picks in this year’s draft – a small sacrifice, considering the Jets still made 10 picks. Though he’s played in the NHL since 2008, at 25 years of age, he’s still a young player. He was highly touted as a teenager, playing pro hockey in the Czech Republic at age 16, which had some people referring to him as him as ‘baby Jagr’. He scored 20 goals in each of his first two seasons in Florida, but was then traded to Chicago, where he took on a lesser role because of their offensive depth. He should play a bigger role in Winnipeg, especially on the powerplay, and hopefully the results will follow.

The only other addition was Adam Pardy – a big depth defenceman who probably won’t play very much unless/until injuries occur.

(5)     What are the best forward line combos?





Extras: Tangradi, Thorburn, Peluso

Ladd, Little, and Wheeler should and will stay together. Enough said. As for the second line, Scheifele gets the nod between Kane and Setoguchi mainly because Jokinen proved last year that he can’t play with Kane. Olli has never been accused of being a good playmaker, hence why he rarely played with Jarome Iginla in Calgary. It’s a lot of pressure to put on a rookie, but there really is no one else, unless O’Dell has a very impressive camp.

Although Frolik prefers to play right wing, I expect Matt Halischuk will force his way up the lineup and slide in on the 3rd line. Wright and Slater are a nice tandem on the 4th line, and you can fill in whoever you want in that last slot. Halischuk will probably see time on either of the bottom two lines, and the same could be said for Wright and Tangradi.

(6)            Defensive Combos




Pardy, Postma, Redmond

Although Noel has been loathe to split up Buff and Toby, I think an Enstrom-Bogosian pairing works much better. It allows Enstrom to play more offensively, and not worry about having to clean up after Buff. (Enstrom and Buff would be re-united on the powerplay). It also gives Bogosian more of a chance to develop offensively by playing with a gifted player like Enstrom. Moving Buff down with Clitsome allows them both to play easier minutes, and still gives Buff a good skating d-man to pair with and help cover his tracks. Assuming Trouba makes the team, he will likely pair with Stuart on the bottom pairing, as it gives him a veteran to play with in relatively low-pressure situations. If Trouba doesn’t make the team, then Redmond probably leapfrogs Pardy and Postma and takes the last spot. (The only reason he isn’t on the team to begin with is because he can play in the AHL without having to clear waivers. Postma would have to clear waivers).

(7) Which Jets will be at the Olympics?

The candidates are:

Czech Republic – Pavelec

Finland – Jokinen

Canada – Ladd

US – Byfuglien, Wheeler, Bogosian

Pavelec is a lock to be one of the Czech goalies, and Jokinen will almost certainly be on the Finnish team, which speaks to their depth up front. Blake Wheeler has a good chance to make the US team, but he may run into trouble because there are more talented wingers available – Kane, Kessel, Ryan, Parise, etc – and though he may be more gifted than some of the other contenders, US team management may decide that they don’t want an offensive guy in a 4th line role. Byfuglien could very well make the US team as a 7th d-man, as his shot would come in very handy on the powerplay. Bogosian could also make a push if he starts the season well, but there are currently better options available. As for Andrew Ladd, it’s amazing that he even got the camp invite, considering the bevy of options Steve Yzerman has for Team Canada. At this point he’s a longshot, but an injury to the right guy – one who was slotted to play LW on the 4th line – could make all the difference.

As for other key Jets, it was odd that Tobias Enstrom didn’t even merit an invite to Sweden’s summer camp. Less so with Evander Kane, as Taylor Hall is already in tough to make Team Canada, and he plays a similar game. Jacob Trouba was actually invited to the US summer camp, but they invited several young players in preparation for future international events. Michael Frolik has an outside chance to make the Czech team, but he would need to have a very strong start.

(8) Will the Jets make the playoffs?

When the Jets first moved to the new 7-team division, which includes Chicago, St. Louis, Minnesota, Colorado, Dallas, and Nashville, I would have said no without a second thought. But after free agency concluded, and the dust settled, I took another look. Keep in mind that, apart from Chicago and St. Louis, the only other team that made the playoffs last year was Minnesota, and they just squeaked into 8th spot, edging Columbus based only on wins. Minnesota hardly improved this off-season; in fact, they lost 4 of their top-9 forwards due to salary cap constraints. Meanwhile, Dallas went through an overhaul, adding a few aging veterans like Gonchar, Horcoff, and Peverley, and more importantly, the wild-child himself, Tyler Seguin, in a blockbuster trade with Boston. Nashville behaved oddly, handing out inflated contracts to marginal forwards, while leaving defensive spots open for untested rookies. Out of the bubble teams, Colorado was the only team, (Jets aside), who clearly improved, adding Tanguay from Calgary, Steve Downie (missed all of last year with a shoulder injury), and Nate MacKinnon with the first overall pick in the draft.

While the top-two spots should be claimed easily by St. Louis and Chicago, the other two spots could literally go to any of those other five teams. Some people like Dallas because of all the noise they made in the off-season, but it’s hard to imagine they’ll come out of the gates quickly after all that turnover. They’re also one Kari Lehtonen injury away from a low finish, and he’s had a number of injuries in his career. Minnesota is counting on a trio of very young players to fill out key forward positions, and typically that isn’t a winning strategy. Their defense is also shaky, to put it kindly. Nashville is always a tough team to beat because of their goaltending and tight defensive system, but seriously, could they have less offensive talent? I think even Calgary has more skill in their putrid lineup. If anything happened to Rinne or Weber, they’d be in huge trouble. And while I mentioned that Colorado has improved, we’re still talking about a team which finished last year in 2nd last – the forwards may be improved, but they have the same brutal defence, and a very average goaltending tandem.

And then there’s the Jets. Although they’ve never been great defensively, they do have a wealth of talent back there between the established guys – Enstrom, Byfuglien, Bogosian, and the kids – Trouba, Redmond, and Postma. Sure, they don’t have a great shut-down defenceman, but Bogosian is getting there, and Buff looks poised for a good year based on his improved fitness. Up front, they aren’t going to carve you up, but their scoring depth is significantly better than either of the past two years, as Setoguchi, Frolik, and Halischuk all have something to contribute. Olli Jokinen will be better this year too – though mainly because he set the bar so low last year that he can’t possibly be worse. Ultimately it will come down to Ondrej Pavelec – and perhaps Al Montoya, if Noel lets him play more than 6 games this year. There aren’t a ton of responsible defensive players in this lineup, so Pavelec will have a lot of tough nights, but if he can be steady and reliable, they have a good chance. The problem is that Pavelec play is of the boom-or-bust variety to this point, which makes it harder for the team to sustain a long winning streak.

My honest answer to the question is, I don’t know. I’ve seen worse teams make the playoffs, and better teams miss out. If their key players stay healthy – Ladd, Little, Wheeler, Kane; Enstrom, Buff, Bogo – and Pavelec is even marginally better than the past two years, then I think the Jets will get in. But if Pavelec is bad, or hurt, or if we lose more than 1 of those key guys, I think it’ll be very tough.

Now, with all that being said, don’t forget that there is no guarantee that the 4th place team actually makes the playoffs. Although there may be four spots up for grabs in each newly created division, there is a cross-over in effect, meaning that a Western Conference team in the other division can take the spot of a team in our division. So let’s say that St. Louis, Chicago, and Minnesota finish 1-2-3 in our division, while LA, San Jose, Vancouver, Anaheim, and Edmonton finish top-5 in the other division. The Jets could finish 4th in the division, but if 5th place Edmonton finishes with more points, they make the playoffs, and we hit the links.


That’s it for now. Coming up, I’ll be doing a fantasy hockey preview.